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ACID3 and Konqueror

Published by Ivan Čukić in the KDE development section, on 4 March 2008

Well, the ACID3 test is out, and it’s time to see the state of the current browsers on ‘the market’

Follows a list of browsers and their results taken from http://web-graphics.com/2008/03/03/the-acid3-test/, with one addition - Konqueror was not tested there.

Edit: Added a couple more tests - thanks for all who contributed

WebKit (Nightly - rev. 30790)	90 < Edit
Firefox 3 (Nightly)	67 < Edit
Opera 9.50	65
Konqueror 4	63
Firefox 3b3	59
Firefox 2	50
Konqueror 3.5.8	~50 (see the comments below for details) < Edit
Opera 9.26	46
Safari 3.0.4	39
IE 8b1	17 < Edit (thanks to all who tested)
IE 7	6-12 depending on installed plugins

As you can see, amongst stable versions (in bold), Konqueror beats them all. Hip, hip, hooray for Konqueror (KHTML) devs! And one hip and hooray for WebKit!

Comments:

Caesar Tjalbo
My Konqueror (3.5.8, Qt 3.3.8b) just says "Fail" without a score. Oh, and it informs me that the page contains coding errors.
Flavio
This is so sad. You're just taking advantage of a different release cycle. Besides nobody uses Konqueror 4. Is it so hard to collaborate with WebKit?
OdyX
Hi,
Konqueror 3.5.8 from KDE 3.5.8 with QT 3.3.8b gives 50 (tested right now).
Regards,
OdyX
Caesar Tjalbo
Excuses, if I copy what's behind the picture of a dog, it says 41/100.
admin
<div class="ivan"> <b>@Flavio</b> Even so, the only browser /in development/ that has higher score is Opera. </i>So, why so sad?</i> It is still a good score - 2 points behind.
Current WebKit nightly will (most probably) not appear in the next version of Safari (or any browser for that matter)
As far as the WebKit is concerned, it is being included with Qt 4.4 so we will see what comes out of it.
And P.S. I do use Konqueror 4.
<b>@Others</b> My <i>old</i> Konqueror just crashes :) </div>
Paul Dann
Firefox 3b4pre (Nightly) scores 67.
Michael
Latest Firefox 3 nightly gets 67 :)
knusperfrosch
konqueror 3.5.8 from kubuntu gutsy just crashes on my machine...
oscar
Strange. I'm using Konqueror 4.0.1 from Debian experimental and get only 49 out of 100.
This is the output.
Failed 51 tests. Test 1: Null value Test 2: Null value Test 3: Null value Test 4: expected: undefined, got: [object HTMLFormElement] - expectation 20 failed Test 6: Null value Test 9: Null value Test 10: expected: result, got: - toString() didn't work for attribute node Test 11: Null value Test 12: Null value Test 13: Null value Test 14: no support Test 15: no support Test 18: expected: 10, got: 1 - DOCTYPE nodeType wrong Test 26: e1 - parent element doesn't exist after looping Test 27: e1 - parent element doesn't exist after waiting Test 29: expected: 2, got: 1 - cloned table had wrong number of children Test 31: capture handler called incorrectly Test 33: Null value Test 34: Null value Test 35: Null value Test 36: Null value Test 37: Null value Test 38: Null value Test 39: Null value Test 40: Null value Test 41: Null value Test 42: Null value Test 43: Null value Test 44: Null value Test 46: Null value Test 47: Null value Test 48: Null value Test 51: expected: 6, got: 5 - wrong number of rows Test 53: expected: 1, got: 0 - form's elements array has wrong size Test 55: Undefined value Test 62: buckets: element has class property Test 69: timeout -- could be a networking issue Test 69 took 500 attempts. Test 71: missing document for test Test 72: missing document for test Test 73: Null value Test 74: contentDocument failed for referencing an svg document. Test 75: contentDocument failed on for svg document. Test 76: contentDocument failed on for svg document. Test 77: contentDocument failed on for svg document. Test 78: contentDocument failed on for svg document. Test 79: Null value Test 80: Script in XHTML didn't execute Test 89: orphaned bracket not considered parse error in regular expression literal Test 90: /(\3)(\1)(a)/ failed to match 'cat' Test 97: expected: one, got: fail - data: failed as escaped
furanku
All browsers did not pass the test. Since the acid tests are rather "academical" than real life examples, this should give developers a hint where possible problems are, and are by no means an criterium which browser is the "best" if there could be anything like that.
Standard compliance *is* important, but 10 points more or less isn't something to celebrate, nor is this the result. Actually the result is: All the browsers show "flaws in the implementation of mature Web standards". Thats what acid3 was designed for.
Caesar Tjalbo
I saw there was an update of Konqueror to v3.5.9 (I'm using sidux, amd64 packages). Score is 51/100.
admin
<div class="ivan"> <b>@furanku</b> You are right, of course. It is not the test 'what is the best browser', but it is not that insignificant neither. </div>
Edgeman
My Konqueror 3.5.8 from Kubuntu just crashes.
Grósz Dániel
For me too, Konqueror 4.0.1 had 49. The linked page also sais 49 for 4.0.1 and 63 only for the latest Konqueror build. Konqueror 3.5.7 crashes for me. (All on openSUSE.)
admin
<div class="ivan"> So the original page was updated. Neat :) <br /><br /> Weird results - since I don't have the nightly Konq... maybe it's a build thing... </div>
Lars Gunther
What about rendering bugs? In order to pass
1. The animation has to be smooth
2. The score has to end on 100/100
3. The final page has to look exactly, pixel for pixel, like the reference rendering.
The big obstacle for most vendors seems to @font-face for point #3.
BTW, please help improve the article on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3
Francesco
You should give also the revision of WebKit nightly. The newest one, rev. 30790, now scores 90 (!)...
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Michaël Hompus
Internet Explorer 8 Beta (8.0.6001.17184) scored a 17
ethana2
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SCIM works in Firefox 3!! YES!!!
/anyway/, uh.. the only thing i care about with acid3 is webkit vs. gecko... they're the only two renderers i consider viable. And once webkit catches up to gecko, life will be better. Until then, competition is great, standards are great, everybody rock on.
Splinter
Ok just downloaded and tested IE8 Beta 1 against ACID 3
17/100 crap everywhere...
Failed 83 of 100 tests. Test 0: 'document.defaultView' is null or not an object Test 1: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 2: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 3: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 4: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 5: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 6: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 7: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 8: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 9: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 10: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 11: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 12: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 13: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 15: privilege escalation security bug: text file ran script Test 16: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 17: hasAttribute failure for 'method' on form Test 18: expected: 10, got: 8 - DOCTYPE nodeType wrong Test 19: expected: 11, got: undefined - document DOCUMENT_FRAGMENT_NODE constant missing or wrong Test 20: null in getElementById() probably terminated string Test 21: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 22: no exception for createElement('') Test 23: expected: 5, got: undefined - wrong exception for createElementNS('null', '') Test 24: expected: update() /* this attribute's value is tested in one of the tests */ , got: - onload value wrong Test 25: exceptions don't have all the constants Test 26: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 27: 'kungFuDeathGrip.0' is null or not an object Test 29: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 30: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 31: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 32: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 33: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 34: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 35: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 36: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 37: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 38: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 39: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 40: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 41: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 42: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 43: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 44: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 45: expected: right, got: undefined - body doesn't have floatation Test 46: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 47: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 49: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 50: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 51: Unexpected call to method or property access. Test 52: form.elements === form Test 53: expected: first, got: - name attribute wrong Test 54: expected: HIDDEN, got: hidden - input control's type content attribute was wrong Test 55: Invalid argument. Test 57: Type mismatch. Test 58: defaultSelected didn't take Test 59: expected: submit, got: - doesn't have type=submit back Test 60: attribute not specified after removal Test 64: expected: 1, got: 0 - object is missing its only child Test 67: when calling removeNamedItemNS in a non existent attribute: wrong exception raised Test 69: timeout -- could be a networking issue Test 69 took 500 attempts. Test 70: UTF-8 encoded XML document with invalid character did not have a well-formedness error Test 71: expected: HTML, got: undefined - name wrong (first test) Test 72: 'styleSheets.0.ownerNode.firstChild' is null or not an object Test 73: Object doesn't support this action Test 74: getSVGDocument missing on element. Test 75: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 76: Failed to find element in svg document. Test 77: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 78: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 79: 'null' is null or not an object Test 80: Script in XHTML didn't execute Test 81: expected: 1, got: 2 - [,] doesn't have length 1 Test 83: expected: 6, got: undefined - array.unshift() returned the wrong value Test 84: expected: 0.0001, got: 0.0000 - toFixed(4) wrong for 0.00006 Test 85: expected: cat, got: sca - substr() wrong with negative numbers Test 86: Argument not optional Test 89: orphaned bracket not considered parse error in regular expression literal Test 90: /(\3)(\1)(a)/ failed to match 'cat' Test 93: expected: 1, got: 2 - semantics of FunctionExpression: function Identifier ... not followed Test 94: expected: pass, got: failing - outer scope poisoned by exception catch{} block Test 97: expected: one, got: fail - data: failed as escaped Test 98: Object doesn't support this property or method Test 99: expected: www.example.com, got: http://hixie.ch/ - sanity did not prevail Elapsed time: 9.81s
Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
I've got 50/100 with Epiphany 2.20.3 (based on Xulrunner 1.8.1.12). Rendering is absolutely insane.
admin
<div class="ivan"> <b>@All</b> Thanks
<b>@Dmitrij D. Czarkoff</b> I'll not add Epiphany in the list above since it has the same engine as FireFox (Gecko)... along with Seamonkey... but thanks anyway :) </div>
Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Well, I believe XULrunner to be worth adding as having different release cycle, and though showing more stable GECKO branch possibilities. But the only Epiphany test hardly can be a reliable source of information.
non
The scores depends on your system's speed i repeat THE SCORES DEPEND ON YOUR SYSTEM SPEED re-run the test on different computers, always a different result by a few points.
me
Konqueror 3.5.8 crashes on kubuntu gutsy for me too.
guru
Latest Firefox nightlies get 70. :-)
raf
Latest opera gets 76 or 77 :)
Anant
Webkit based epiphany on Debian passes 100%!!!
KUscroft
Konqueror 3.5.8 crashes on openSuse 10.2
flash tekkie
Konqueror runs on the KHTML core of WebKit, so it should really pass now because <a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/browsers/first-browser-to-pass-acid3-web-standards-test" title="First browser to pass Acid3 web standards test" rel="nofollow">WebKit passed Acid3 fully for the first time on Friday</a>. 100 subtests of 100 passed now.
<a href="http://tekkie.flashbit.net/browsers/first-browser-to-pass-acid3-web-standards-test#opera-960-beta-acid3-result" rel="nofollow">Opera 9.60 Beta scored 85</a>.
Ivan Čukić
Not really true. KHTML was the base upon which WebKit was built, but that was a long long time ago. Since then, they evolved separately (with small influences both was).

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